Vote ‘yes’ allowing parents to homeschool in Germany

This poll is a daily poll and has changed.

Vote ‘yes’ allowing parents to homeschool in Germany

There is currently a poll going on a regional German radio station as a result of news coverage of a family who fled the area for the United States and is seeking refuge there.

The question is “Should parents be allowed to homeschool their own children?”

German homeschoolers are asking us to vote “Ja” for/with them.

[At the beginning of their day it was 80% against. 3 hours later it was about 50:50 but leaning towards ‘against’ as this reflects the way the press are presenting the issue as well as ‘popular opinion’]

Here is the link http://www.meinantenne1.de/news/bw_frage/index.php

When I voted at 8:27am 23 June 2009 the results were:

JA 58.24%
NEIN 41.76%

So when you vote:

Ya means Yes

Jetzt abstimmen means now vote

Ansehen means to look at, consider

The Long Journey Back Into Night!

We have just been sent this:

“We have just been watching Christian World News on Shine TV Sky channel 111, and they are advertising that next week Tuesday 8.30 pm they will be highlighting and doing a news report on the news about the German Home Educators being persecuted.”

Excerpted from
http://joelthornton.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/germany-home-schooling-the-long-journey-back-into-night/

Joel Thornton’s Weblog

German Home Schooling: The Long Journey Back Into Night!
Published 5 September 2008

Herr “Schmidt” (names cannot be revealed for fear of reprisals) and
his family are facing the loss of everything.  They are German
citizens and love their country.  Their only crime is that they are
home schooling in a country that refuses to allow parents to make
educational choices for their own children.  When Herr Schmidt
insisted on home schooling his children, German officials began
fining him.  Without a trial the government levied fines against Herr
Schmidt and his family that he could not pay.  Government officials
then began to take money from their bank account — money that was
dedicated to feeding their family and maintaining their home. When
there was not enough money in Herr Schmidt’s bank account, government
officials began to evaluate the value of his house with the intent to
put it up for auction.

Though Herr Schmidt and his family have paid thousands in fines….  He and
his family now have a decision to make; one that they never
previously considered. Herr Schmidt told me last year that he would
not leave Germany; his wife was tired and they would not pack up and
leave the country.

Unfortunately for Herr Schmidt and his family, in Germany “the times
they are a changing.”  A new federal law makes it much easier for
government officials to take children from their parents.  When
Melissa Busekros was taken from her parents in the Bavarian town of
Erlangen, one of the legal issues that helped us keep Melissa home
after she finally fled state custody was the need for a qualified
psychological evaluation and a certificate meeting an exacting legal
standard.  These had to be in place before government officials could
take a child permanently from their parents’ custody.

Germany has now removed this legal protection. That means that
families, particularly children, are open game once they are targeted
by government officials.  This new law will leave all families
extremely vulnerable — particularly if they are Christians and home
school their children. The government has free access to all
children, and under threat of fines, imprisonment, and loss of
custody of their children parents are told by social workers what to
do with their children.

The only choice Herr Schmidt has is to flee Germany with his family.
If government officials learn that he is leaving the country with his
children, they will hide behind a recent German court decision that
prohibits parents from exiting the country with their children if the
state believes the parents are not acting in the best interest of
their children.  Parents are still free to leave the country, but
their children will be forcibly put into state custody.

One of the most accepted forms of parents not acting in the best
interest of their children is to home school them. The new law gives
social workers a free hand to determine what is best for the
children. There is virtually no room for argument before the courts
anymore; the child has the right to what a social worker thinks is
the best society has to offer — to go to a German public school.

This does not mean that we will no longer fight in the courts.  It is
critical that we continue to work within the legal system.  Now we
must work in other areas; political, social, the media, and at the
grass roots, to protect the rights of parents and their children.  We
must change the nature of the educational system — something
the International Human Rights Group will be addressing through a
serious of upcoming initiatives.  These focused efforts include
alternative school choices for Germans families and a German language
curriculum to be utilized by German families — of course, this
curriculum would be Christian based.

Unfortunately for Herr Schmidt, government officials have taken every
Euro the family has.  Somehow they have to find the funds to secretly
leave the country before government officials learn they are leaving
and take their children from them.

This is not a fictitious account. Herr Schmidt and his family are
very real people.  I have literally broken bread with them.  I have
sat in their home, eating goulash and fried bread, praying before a
communal meal, learning to love and respect this family.

This account is all too real in the new German war on home schooling.

While government officials are bearing down on German families, we
have been able to win an important victory on behalf of an American
missionary family.  This family came to Germany to help pastor a
church.  They have always home schooled their children, and when they
came to Germany they continued to do so.  When German officials
discovered they were home schooling, they immediately refused to
grant the family a residence visa unless they put their children in
the local government school.  When the Robinsons refused to bend to
the pressure they were given a deportation date — be out of Germany
voluntarily or be forced out of the country.

Because they are Americans, we have been able to use public pressure,
political pressure, and solid legal work to force government
officials to agree to permit the Robinson family to stay in Germany
and fulfill their mission through the end of the year.

The fight to protect the Robinson family lasted nearly a year.  It
was a fight that began in an administrative setting and ended in
court.  Armin and Gabriele Eckermann, both attorneys for Schuzh,
handled the administrative hearings.  These hearings permitted the
Robinson family to remain in the country.

Dr. Ronald Reichert, European Counsel for the International Human
Rights Group, handled the court hearings and was finally able to
negotiate a settlement that resolved all of the issues facing the
Robinsons.  The final result is that the Robinsons will legally
remain in Germany — and they are being permitted to home school.

Then they intend to move to another country in Europe and continue
their ministry by pastoring a church in Europe.

The fight for religious freedom and parental rights in Germany,
including the right to home school, will continue.  We must stand
with these families and do everything in our power to help them.

We must help some families escape before overzealous German
government officials destroy them. Herr Schmidt did not ask us for
financial help to flee with his family even though he is destitute.
He trusts that God will provide for them by moving the hearts of his
fellow Christians to help — that means us.

Equally important, we must pray! Pray for these families who are
facing their darkest hour.  German government officials are once
again using the law to separate children from their parents — their
only crime?  Home schooling.

The next knock on Herr Schmidt’s door could be the police pushing
into their home and taking their children to an undisclosed location
without due process of law — just like Melissa Busekros.  Can we
really afford to have their pain on our conscience?

Plea for the return of German homeschoolers to their parents

For those following the cases of German homeschoolers, here is your
opportunity to add your name to the cause of the Gorber children.

Six were snatched in an armed offenders style raid at the beginning of the
year and have spent 6+ months in state custody.

The 3 year old boy was finally allowed home a few weeks ago.

The children have asked for as many people as possible to support them by
signing the plea for their return, because they have asked and asked until
they are blue in the face and the authorities are not listening to them.

http://educatinggermany.7doves.com/2008/09/06/plea

Thank you!

German Youth Authorities Allow Gorber Children Home ‘Temporarily’

http://www.hslda.org/hs/international/Germany/200808190.asp

Germany

Germany


August 19, 2008

German Youth Authorities Allow Gorber Children Home ‘Temporarily’

In a surprise decision earlier this week, the Youth Welfare Authorities in Germany, the “Jugendamt,” have allowed the remaining five Gorber children to return home until the beginning of September. The five girls have been kept in youth homes for the last eight months with minimal visitation from their family.

The family’s attorneys have been arguing that there is no valid reason for the Jugendamt to retain custody of the girls. Earlier this month, a German family court judge ordered that the Jugendamt retain custody of the school-age children because the judge feared the parents would refuse to enroll the children in school and undergo court-ordered psychiatric examinations.

Mr. and Mrs. Gorber are so pleased that their children are now home with them. A person close to the family reported that the “children have held up well under the circumstances and have not been susceptible to manipulation by the Jugendamt or other children in the homes. This is a real testimony of the strength of the family and the parents.”

Despite Germany’s inhospitable education laws, the Gorbers have homeschooled there for quite some time, motivated by their sincere religious convictions. In January, authorities seized the Gorbers’ seven minor children in an aggressive raid of the family home conducted while the parents were absent. At the time of the raid, Mr. Gorber was visiting his wife, who was hospitalized due to a complicated pregnancy. The seizure was conducted without advanced notice and required authorities to carry off at least one child “kicking and screaming.”

A similar raid occurred in 2007 when the Jugendamt and police authorities seized Melissa Busekros from her home in Erlangen and kept her in foster homes for months with minimal visitation from her family. Melissa escaped from her foster home in April 2007, and is now at home. She is pressing her case against the state for breaching her and her family’s civil rights.

The Gorbers, too, have vowed to fight on until they regain permanent custody of all of their children.

Homeschoolers in Germany remain gravely concerned about recent changes in federal law that have made it easier for the Jugendamt to seize children from families who homeschool. In July, German President Horst Kohler signed a law that made it easier for the Jugendamt to take German children from families where the children were “endangered.” The term “endangered” is not defined in the law, and German Courts have already ruled that homeschooling is “an abuse of parental rights.”

Another homeschool family in Germany, the Dudeks, were sentenced to 90 days each in jail in July for homeschooling their children. The Dudeks, who receive daily letters of encouragement, told HSLDA that “they so appreciate the letters from American homeschoolers. Some days we are quite depressed about the situation in Germany, and then we go to the mailbox and we read a wonderful note of encouragement from an American homeschooling family. Our children love the letters and have already several pen-pals.”

The Dudeks’ attorneys will be filing their appeal of the conviction this week with the state appeals court in the German state of Hesse. The Dudeks are hopeful that their appeal will overturn their conviction. “Sending people to jail because they homeschool is wrong,” says Juergen Dudek. “We are educating our children well. They are well-adjusted and not deprived in anyway. We have again applied for status of a private school in Hesse. We are willing to work with the authorities to come to an understanding how we can educate our children, but we will not compromise on whether we, as their parents, will educate them. It is our duty and responsibility and our conscience will not allow us to give that up.”

Other families have fled Germany under threat of extraordinary fines, threat of jail and the possible loss of custody of their children. Some have fled to Canada, England, New Zealand, the United States and even Iran to be able to homeschool their children.

“Families should not have to choose between their homeland and homeschooling,” said HSLDA Staff Attorney Michael Donnelly, who coordinates HSLDA’s involvement in Germany, “These families are following their conscience, and Germany is simply out of step to treat parents who choose to educate their own children in this dramatically autocratic way. This kind of behavior by the Federal Republic of Germany is very disturbing. HSLDA is committed to helping persecuted homeschoolers in Germany and calls on state legislators in Germany to take action to change their laws to make homeschooling legal. Homeschooling works and is legal all over Europe—Germany should not be allowed to get away with this kind of repression of a fundamental human right.”

CBN news: Germany Declares War on Home-Schoolers plus video

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/425122.aspx

Click on link above to watch the video in Broadband and Low Band

Scroll down to read the article:

Germany Declares War on

Home-Schoolers

By Dale Hurd
CBN News Senior Reporter
August 11, 2008

CBNNews.com – NUREMBURG, Germany – It certainly looks as if the German government has declared open season on Germany’s tiny home-schooling community.

CBN News was first to bring the story of Melissa Busekros to American television last year. The home-schooled teenager was snatched from her family by police in a SWAT style raid and put in a psychiatric ward. After an international uproar, Melissa was returned to her family.

But other home-schooling families face even worse persecution. More and more parents are being sent to prison. Heavy fines are leaving home-schooling families destitute. And more and more children have been taken into state custody.

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It’s been 70 years since compulsory education was made law by Adolf Hitler’s government. And in what is eerily reminiscent of the 1930s, more and more home-schooling families have been forced to flee Germany or risk losing their children.

Klaus and Kathryn Landahl fled to England after they were tipped off that authorities were going to take custody of their kids.

The Gorber family, who reside in southern Germany, have had six of their children taken from them by the state.

And Juergen and Rosemarie Dudek each face 3-month jail terms, and are economically ruined from heavy fines.

These are just a few of the cases. But there are only about 400 home-schooling families left in Germany now.

The home-schooling experts CBN News spoke to believe the government wants to wipe out the small home-schooling community here, before it can become popular, like it has in the United States.

“What you’re having now is legitimate full blown persecution. They’re trying to eradicate this movement before it can gain traction and become a popular movement like it has in America,” explained attorney Joel Thornton, President and CEO of the International Human Rights Group, which defends German homeschoolers in court.

In the Bavarian town of Schwabach, attorney Johannes Hildebrandt, who also represents home-schoolers, says the movement is at a critical point.

“In the courts, it is in danger. Home schooling is very strange to the German people. They have no experience with this kind of education,” Hildebrandt said.

The German government’s argument against home schooling as stated by Wolfgang Drautz, German Consul General is that “The public has a legitimate interest in countering the rise of parallel societies that are based on religion or motivated by different world views and in integrating minorities into the population as a whole.”

“Germany does not want the kind of citizens that home schooling produces. They’ve seen how the home-schooling movement in the U.S. developed and they’re very keen on that not happening here,” said German academic Klaus Guenther, who is also an American citizen and was home schooled.

Home schooling Barred to Non-Germans

The Germans don’t even want non-Germans home schooling in Germany.

American missionaries Clint and Susan Robinson moved their family to Germany only to have their visa application turned down because they home school. They now have to leave the country, and are looking to move to Austria, which allows home schooling.

“What we’re trying to do is get a house just across the border so we’re living in Austria, where our visa comes from so the government can’t control us with home schooling,” says Clint Robinson.

Susan added tearfully, “We left our home country and came over here and God supplied this house and the environment and just everything, and now they’re saying ‘no, you can’t stay, you’ve got to leave.’ It’s hard.”

And at the same time that the German government is persecuting home-schoolers in Germany, including Americans who want to homeschool there, Berlin is encouraging its diplomats abroad, including its diplomats in Washington, to home school their children with a state homeschooling curriculum.

Thornton said, “Their officials are actually encouraged to home school and not put their children into American schools and into foreign schools.”

A Questionable Education

A lot of American Christians would have good reason not to want their kids subjected to German state schools. The sex education curriculum is often pornographic, even for young ages, and the occult is often celebrated.

Missionary Robinson told CBN News, “I know of schools right in our area where it’s not just mixed swimming but mixed showering after the swim class is over and mixed locker rooms and then they leave and go to the next class.”

German home-schooler Heiko Krautter told us he would be sinning to put his children in a state school.

He said, “These things in the school, the official state school, they destroy the children. And we teach the children in the things of God. And the people in the official school teach the children in other things, against God.”

Krautter fled Germany after this interview and took his family to Norway.

Thornton believes Germany’s war on home-schooling is just a part of Europe’s war against Christianity.

“This is a battle to eradicate spiritual life from every person in Europe, to eradicate spirituality and Christianity from the culture,” he said.

And the unfortunate victims in this battle are the families who believe educating their children is their God-given right.