Silence is Golden – “Don’t Talk to the Police”

12 June 2008 Family Integrity #398 — Silence is Golden

 “Don’t Talk to the Police” by Professor James Duane

and

“Don’t Talk to the Police” by Officer George Bruch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc


Watch an engaging and fascinating video presentation by Professor James Duane of the Regent University School of Law, explaining why — in a criminal matter — you should never, ever, ever talk to the police or any other government agent. It doesn’t matter if you’re guilty or innocent, if you have an alibi or not — it isn’t possible for anything you say to help you, and it’s very possible that innocuous things you say will hurt you. Definitely worth half an hour of your time. Also hear a rebuttal from Virginia Beach Police Department Officer George Bruch, who says that Professor Duane is right.

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Gidday all,

Here again at the bottom is the Stuff article proposing new powers for Police to issue safety orders on the spot (forbidding one person from going anywhere near another person, persons or place) merely on suspicion of “family violence”. Vindictive elements of society are able to wreck havoc on families of whom they “disapprove” by making anonymous tips to police without fear of “civil, criminal or disciplinary proceedings” against them “unless the information was disclosed or supplied in bad faith” (CYPF Act 1989, Section 16). Such people are now defacto part of the government spy network, with unelected yet powerful bureaucrats such as Cindy Kiro publicly saying she wants to see neighbours dob each other in for mistreating their children. Problem with that, of course, is some neighbours think home education, instruction in Christianity, eating meat, not eating meat, not getting vaccinations are all acts of abuse.

The outrageous outcome of the twin murder case of the Kahuis — noone is to be charged with their torture and murder — is at the least instructive to us who feel we may be maliciously accused due to vindictive elements of society using the every-parent-is-guilty rewrite of Section 59. And the instruction is: Silence is Golden. Say nothing. Or if you say anything at all, let it be the phrase, “I have nothing to say.”

Most of us do not like this at all. I don’t like it. I prefer to believe that Truth will prevail and that our police believe and seek the same. Then I remember the Arthur Allen Thomas case, the David Bain case, the cops acquitted recently for pack rape when they were manifestly guilty of grossly immoral and unprofessional conduct at the very least. I also prefer to operate on the assumption that I have nothing to hide and welcome an inspection. (Or if I’m guilty, I am willing to face the consequences of my guilt.) But then I remember the many home educators I’ve personally dealt with who have, for whatever reason, received negative ERO reports, usually because the review officer appeared to have a bad hair day (although I’ve also witnessed straight-out anti-Christian prejudice.) Then I remember two successive top ERO staff in charge of the home schooling unit tell me, in nearly the exact same words, that they can tell within 30 seconds of entering a home whether they’ll be getting a positive or negative report…to me this speaks of a wholly subjective process based on things the ERO officer sees, senses, smells and hears rather than on the facts of the case. Then I also remember ex-Labour MP Margaret Autin telling me face-to-face that if she had it her way, home schoolers would be subject to every OSH, MoE, ERO regulation in the book because we are, in her eyes, defacto institutions! Then I remember a past MoE official, one who processed all exemptions for the lower North Island, telling me that at least 50% of the MoE staff at head office would shut all of us home educators down over night if they could.

Then I watched these two video clips, one by a lawyer, the other by a career policeman specialing in interviewing (he says they no longer use the word “interrogate”) suspects. It is American and set against the American written Constitution. Nevertheless, it clearly explains how fallible human foibles can nail innocent persons. It also explains why we have certain “rights” as citizens and yet how easily and casually we will waive those rights because of sheer ignorance and naivite.

You owe it to your family to watch this video clip and fully internalise their contents.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

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And here are two more links from another Lawyer:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZePEy7OxV9s

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsoY9VxSsIc

 

Regards,

Craig Smith
National Director
Family Integrity
PO Box 9064
Palmerston North
New Zealand
Ph: (06) 357-4399
Fax: (06) 357-4389

Family.Integrity@xtra.co.nz
http://www.FamilyIntegrity.org.nz

 

Our Home….Our Castle

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4579630a11.html

Police get new powers in domestic incidents

By BEN FAWKES – The Dominion Post | Wednesday, 11 June 2008

Police who attend suspected domestic violence incidents will have the power to issue “on the spot” safety orders lasting up to three days under tough law changes proposed by the Government.

The safety orders are part of a raft of changes announced by Justice Minister Annette King to the Domestic Violence Act and welcomed by support groups.

The safety orders would last for up to 72 hours and could be issued in circumstances where police suspected domestic violence but did not have enough evidence to make an arrest.

Other proposals include stiffening the penalties for breaching court protection orders, with a maximum penalty of up to two years jail to give judges an “appropriate sentencing range”.

“When you get problems, often deaths, it is when you get breaches of protection orders,” King said.

The courts would also be allowed to consider making protection orders on behalf of victims and access to counselling programmes for both offenders and victims will be improved.

The proposed law changes were currently being drafted and were expected to be put before Parliament within weeks, King said.

Chief Families Commissioner Rajen Prasad welcomed the proposals and said he hoped they would contribute toward a reduction in domestic violence.

“Better enforcement by the police and courts and better access to programmes will improve safety in families and encourage people to seek help to change their abusive behaviour.”

National Network of Stopping Violence national manager Brian Gardner also backed the proposals, particularly the safety orders which he said had worked well in Western Australia.

“It gets the men out of the house and gives them time to cool down and allows the victims to think about what they can do to keep safe.”

Allowing courts to impose protection orders would give financial relief to victims who he said were currently having to pay around $1500 “on a good day” to obtain a protection order, Gardner said.

But the proposals received a scathing response from the National Party, who said the Government was copying its own policies.

“We believe giving police the ability to issue on-the-spot protection orders for suspected victims of domestic violence will be very effective in putting their immediate safety first,” National’s law and order spokesman, Simon Power, said.

Violent crime had risen by 32 per cent under the Labour Government and Power said on-the-spot safety orders were first mooted by National Party leader John Key last November.

“On-the-spot protection orders are a good idea, we believe they will work, and are flattered Labour thinks so as well.”

King said the initiatives pre-dated National’s announcement and were the result of more than a year of research.

“The discussion paper went out in December last year … it had been worked on for months before that.”

—–Original Message—–
From: Ruby Harrold-Claesson 

Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:16 PM
Subject: SV: Police get new powers in domestic incidents

Hi Everyone!

They talk about “abusive behaviour”. What about the abusive behaviour of the CYFS and the children who are being told that their parents do not have the right to correct their unacceptable behaviour?NZ has discrimination against children and Rödeby Cases around the corner.

At present, through the NCHR, I am involved in a case in Stockholm in which the 10-yr old daughter of Pakistani parents – both social workers educated in Sweden – informed her school teacher that her parents had smacked her. The girl was taken immediately (April 14, 2008). Since then they have not been allowed to see or talk to their daughter. In the meantime, they questioned her younger brother, who told them he had not been smacked. He too has been taken into care. The girl has retracted her statement but no one will listen to her. The Administrative Court in Stockholm confirmed the care order on May 30, and the parents and the children are totally devastated.

The parents also face criminal charges for assault of their children.

What a crazy country Sweden is! And NZ has joined the ranks!
What beats me most is that as many as 22 countries have adopted anti-smacking laws and that the European Council and the UN recommend that ALL countries should have such a law! Well, I’m sure that neither Jamaica nor France will follow suit.

Kind regards

Ruby

http://www.nkmr.org

Government Schools in New Zealand

 

Government Schools are Revolting!

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0806/S00110.htm

PRESS RELEASE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Education

Government Schools are Revolting!

Libertarianz spokesman Phil Howison is completely unsurprised that 15 Auckland principals are “deeply concerned about the future of New Zealand’s schools” due to the ill-conceived and unworkable ‘Schools Plus’ initiative.

“Which is worse, Education Minister Chris Carter’s oppressive new policy, or the principals’ incessant and insatiable demands for taxpayer funding?” Education Spokesman Phil Howison wonders.

“Detaining students for a further 2 years against their will is a violation of the rights of young New Zealanders, to say nothing of a waste of tax-payer money. It is essentially an admission of defeat for state education – if eleven years in state schools has left over 500,000 New Zealanders functionally illiterate, what difference could adding two years make?” Howison asks.

“Even Chris Carter has admitted that we are spending too much public money on education, and receiving far too little in return. The constant cry from schools for more money reveals the inability of most educators to think of innovative approaches.”

“Our transitional education policy would distribute schools to the community through shares, empowering parents to become involved with their child’s education. The separation of school and state would allow new methods, subjects and ideas to evolve in a free market system.”

“It’s enough to make you vote Libertarianz!”

ENDS

New Zealand Herald – Canvas Weekend Magazine

There was an article on unschooing in last weekend’s Herald in the Canvas Magazine. Here are some of the photos-the article was not online:

http://newspix.nzherald.co.nz/gallery?stateUnset=control.gallery.startIndex&control.gallery.mode=browse&gallery.browse.category=1000133

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Barbara Smith gets help from her “unschooling” children, Kaitlyn, 7, and Jedediah, 10, and Charmagne, 20, while preparing buns for lunch at their Palmerston North home, March 31, 2008. New Zealand Herald Photograph by Mark Mitchell

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Barbara and Craig Smith with their “unschooled” children (clockwise from top) Grace, 2, Charmagne, 20, Kaitlyn, 7, Jedediah, 10, and Jeremiah, 15, at their Palmerston North home. 31 March 2008 New Zealand Herald Photograph by Mark Mitchell

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Craig and Barbara Smith spending time with their “unschooled” children, Grace, 2, Kaitlyn, 7, and Jedediah, 10, in a library housed in a small shed on their Palmerston North property. 31 March 2008 New Zealand Herald Photograph by Mark Mitchell

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Dalene Mactier reads to her daughter Lauren, 7, while her son Matthew, 10, reads to himself at their home in Southbridge, near Christchurch. The Mactiers believe in “unschooling” their children. 2 April 2008 New Zealand Herald Photograph by Simon Baker

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Dalene Mactier playing Monopoly with her children Matthew, 10, and Lauren, 7, at their home in Southbridge, near Christchurch. The Mactiers believe in “unschooling” their children. 2 April 2008 New Zealand Herald Photograph by Simon Baker

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‘Loving’ family goes into hiding, fears separation


http://www.gisborneherald.co.nz/html/Articles/ArticlesPrint.aspx?id=32644359013c4766974d2ffd571eed6a

‘Loving’ family goes into hiding, fears separation
Friday, 11 April 2008
By Sophie Rishworth
A large family “living rough” on the outskirts of Tiniroto has gone bush as the nation’s media tries to track them down.

Yesterday, camera crews and repo rters from at least two television channels and one national newspaper were pursuing them after East Coast MP Anne Tolley drew national attention in Parliament to their lifestyle.

Her concern was over the fact they were living in makeshift conditions and that CYF had not intervened.

The family’s 13 children were living without water, toilets and electricity and had not been attending school since August last year, she said.

But those who know the family say they are a “very loving” family whose only fear is being separated.

Sandra and Peter Smith, both in their 40s, in fact have 16 children, aged between 1 and 17, and have been living at various locations around Te Reinga, Tiniroto and Wairoa.

The children are described as happy, helpful and healthy, with the older ones helping out with the younger ones.

It is understood the family were victims of a violent home invasion in September 2006, when men brandishing guns, softball bats and bars forced their way into their Naenae home.

They have been transient ever since.

The family have applied to the Ministry of Education to home-school their children.

Nancy Brooking, who lived with the family for about five months when they stayed at her Te Mokai property, said both parents were very committed to their children’s education.

“The children were delightful, so happy and so respectful . . . if they saw me doing something, they would run over to help me.

“But they didn’t have the resources, they didn’t have anything.”

Ms Brooking worked in psychological services for 12 years at Rimutaka prison and said she has seen the end result of children who were not cared for.

“If this couple can get the support they need to continue to raise their children as they are, then the children will not end up where I’ve just come from. They are well cared for.”

The Smith children did not have any behavioural problems, she said.

Ms Brooking said she felt disillusioned after numerous approaches to agencies to get the family help with the resources they needed.

Social agencies seemed to view the parents as irresponsible in the way they looked after their children, when in fact it was quite the opposite, she said.

“They look at her and ask ‘why did you have all these children?’ In my tribe she would be a gem . . . I find her just amazing,” she said.

“She taught her children how to cook, how to grow vegetables and wanted to incorporate that into their education. She also taught them singing and interacting with each other.

The children had been to school but were subject to bullying and teasing about being poor and coming from a large family.

“They were teased about the fact they didn’t have what other children had, didn’t have the lunch that other children had — they just had peanut butter and bread.

“There was no bullying at home, no swearing — the older ones would always support the smaller ones. They are a really tight family unit.”

Ms Brooking said the parents struggled with transport costs getting the children to and from school.

She described Peter Smith as a quiet, reserved man who was very capable and intelligent.

“He was a top athlete when he was a young lad, but he had to leave school early to help his father.”

“I saw the same athletic ability in the children — they are very, very athletic.” .

Their dream was to have a little property where they could grow vegetables, home- school and raise their children, she said.

Ms Brooking said the conditions she was offering them were sub-standard and it began to worry her that the children were living in rooms that were leaking and the parents were sleeping on the floor.

But the family would rather stay together in sub-standard circumstances than have the children farmed out.

Ms Brooking said she asked agencies for help in improving conditions so the family could stay there, but received none.

The parents lived in fear of having the children taken away from them because of the substandard conditions.

They left Te Mokai and went to a campsite at Tiniroto over summer. From there, they moved down the road to a relative’s house at Te Reinga.

Neighbours say the parents kept to themselves but the children could often be seen playing in the yard, running around and laughing.

“The only crying we heard was from the wee baby. We never heard any fighting,” said the neighbour.

Child Youth and Family have said they will co-ordinate the support of other relevant agencies to help the family.

“The family have told us they are very upset at the large amount of personal information regarding them and their circumstances that has been discussed in public,” said national media adviser Lee Harris Royal.

“They have asked us to protect their privacy by not commenting on the family’s affairs in the media.

“We intend to respect their wishes.”

“Child, Youth and Family have been working with this family to find a solution to the issues they face.

“We will continue to do so. We are committed doing all in our power to support and strengthen this whanau.”

Story by The Gisborne Herald
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Unprecedented State Control of New Zealand Youth

PRESS RELEASE
Youth

Libertarianz education spokesman Phil Howison today slammed Helen Clark and John Key’s mirror-image plans to nationalise New Zealand teenagers.

“Forcing students to stay at school until they are 18 will cause unruly classrooms, bored students, stressed teachers and an increased burden for taxpayers” says Libertarianz education spokesman Phil Howison. “It is essentially an admission of defeat for state education. If eleven years in state schools leaves most students unemployable, what difference can adding two years make?” Howison asks. “Clark and Key have come up with plans combining the worst excesses of Nanny State. Add to it the plans to screen toddlers for ‘anti-social behaviour’, schools such as Westlake Boys High School which hold back even academically gifted students for a year if they have a ‘bad attitude’, and the threat of boot camp for students who refuse to comply, and you have the blueprints for unprecedented state control of New Zealand youth.”In her attempt to cram reluctant learners back in the classroom, Clark also condemns those who actually want to be there to disruptive and unruly classrooms. “Students who are hostile towards their compulsory schooling usually end up being disruptive and lowering the quality of the learning environment,” Howison says, pointing to Hutt Valley High School as a particularly grim example. He also laments the unnecessary stress that will burden teachers as they struggle with classroom discipline, becoming babysitters rather than educators. “Forget about Key’s boot camps – schools these days seem to be just as rife with violence, bullying and substance abuse as the prisons. But all teenagers, not just youth offenders, are forced to attend!”

The extra $150 million of taxpayer loot that Clark is prepared to spend on turning schools into prisons will hit the taxpayer where it hurts again. “Clark’s scheme will take many young people out of the workforce where they are learning to be self-sufficient and productive, leaving them with no choice but to accept government handouts” says Howison. “And Key’s plan is no better. By supplying government funding to even more tertiary courses, he would extend government control of higher education, leaving a mere facade of private ownership while leaving the door open for waste and abuse.”

“The first step of the Libertarianz transitional education policy will be to lower the compulsory school leaving age to zero. In a free society, all interactions including the decision to stay at school must be voluntary. To help young people gain meaningful employment and encourage private apprenticeships, Libertarianz will remove minimum wage laws and make the first $10,000 of income tax free,” Howison says. “Libertarianz believe in the separation of school and state, allowing new methods, subjects and ideas to evolve in a free market system.”

“It’s enough to make you vote Libertarianz!”

ENDS

For more information, please contact:

Phil Howison
Libertarianz Spokesman for the Deregulation of Education
Phone: 027 437 0308
Email: phil.howison@libertarianz.org.nz

Libertarianz: More Freedom – Less Government
http://www.libertarianz.org.nz