Reporting back on the Problem Solving Survey

Craig with children and timelineWhile I am still writing my personal Problem Solving Survey it occurred to me that only those who have filled out the Problem Solving Survey or sent an email about itwill be sent the feedback and the summary of the collated feedback – or maybe it will just be sent to some selected home educators.

After 3 October 2014, we will be collating all the feedback from the home schooling sector and organisations involved in home schooling.  We will summarise what is working well and anything that people would like to see changed. A copy of all the feedback and the summary of this collated feedback will be provided to the home schooling sector by the end of November 2014.  We will seek feedback from the sector on this document to ensure we have accurately captured what is working well and what people would like to see changed.  The feedback we receive from the home schooling sector will inform us of the next steps.  Any proposed next steps will be provided to the home schooling sector for comment also by the end of November 2014.

When I asked if I could put the findings of the Red Tape Cluster Buster team on this website this is the answer that I got from them:

Unfortunately we cannot answer yes to putting the notes online; the reason for this is that the notes are an amalgamation of all our meetings and therefore not “ours” as such, but everyone’s who fed into the process.

I will ask if I can put the feedback and the summary of the collated feedback of the Problem Scoping Survey on this website but I am expecting that I will get a similar answer. So my suggestion to you is if you would like to be getting the feedback and the summary of the collated feedback then you might be more likely to get a copy of it if you put in a Scoping Survey or write an email about it.

You don’t have to fill in every box in the survey or send a long email. Just pick something from:

what the MoE is doing well,

or what the MoE is not doing well

or that you would like to see improved.

Time is limited now – the deadline has passed but by my reckoning I figure we have until early Monday morning to send in our surveys or emails. The deadline was the 3rd, that is Friday midnight. The MoE wont be working over the weekend so let’s get as much feedback to them by early Monday that we can.

Here is the link that I have been trying to get out far and wide (although I was talking to a home educator just last night who had not heard about the Scoping Survey at all.) So please forward this email to other home educators and to your support groups to pass around. OK back to the link: MoE Problem Scoping Survey: please make it known and fill it out. There are a number of ideas that you can use to stimulate your thinking, you can write about other things or just copy and paste what you agree with.

Here is the Home Education Foundation’s Scoping Survey which I emailed this afternoon: Home Education Foundation’s Problem Scoping Survey. Again feel free to use anything that you would like from the Home Education Foundation’s Problem Solving Survey.

Now to finish my personal Problem Scoping Survey

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MoE Problem Scoping Survey: please make it known and fill it out

Don’t forget to get your Problem Scoping Surveys into the MoE today (at a stretch early Monday morning – the MoE wont be working over the weekend, we have until midnight to get the Problem Scoping Surveys in, so early Monday morning will get the Surveys to the MoE before they start processing them).

Addresses for sending the Scoping Survey back:

email: Home.Schooling@minedu.govt.nz

snail mail: Lucy Ambrose, 45-47 Pipitea St, Wellington

phone: 04 463 8946 | Ext 48946

or look for the addresses in Jim Greening’ letter.

Links:
Home Education Foundation letter which covers exemption form, beneficiaries, International home educators and Keystone.

– MoE/ERO issues

– Changes in the MoE

– MoE discussions introduction to the Red Tape Cluster Buster meetings

– Preparation for the MoE discussions with Red Tape Cluster Buster meetings andrelevant for the Problem Scoping Survey
– Discussions home educators had online at Clutter buster group or (for ease of reading as not everyone can get onto the Google docs) here…https://hef.org.nz/coming-events-archives-2012/red-tape-cluster-buster/ (Also a lot of very good information to aid you in filling out the Problem Scoping Survey)

– Record of Progress and Achievement (an example of the new National MoE office staff understanding home educators)

– Truancy and the Home Schooler/Home Educator (another success with the National Office in that Megan showed us alternatives)

– Scoping Meeting 15 July 2014 – Getting to know you

– 2nd Meeting 28 July 2014 – Red Tape Cluster Buster Meeting

– MoE scoping Home Educators – email

– Feedback Form (Problem Scoping Survey) on MoE website

– Email to the MoE about the Scoping Survey from a Home Educator

– Problem Scoping Survey: ideas and deadline

– MoE’s reply to Yumiko’s email about the Scoping Survey

– MoE Problem Scoping Survey: please make it known and fill it out

– The last of Craig Smith’s writings before he died 3 years ago

– MoE Problem Scoping Survey

Home Education Foundation’s Problem Scoping Survey

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Please share/forward this link with other home educators.

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From the Smiths:

https://hef.org.nz/2011/craig-smith-26-january-1951-to-30-september-2011/

Updated 1 October 2014:  Three years on (Craig Smith’s Health) page 7 click here

*****

Needing help for your home schooling journey:

https://hef.org.nz/2011/needing-help-for-your-home-schooling-journey-2/

And

Here are a couple of links to get you started home schooling:

Information on getting startedhttps://hef.org.nz/getting-started-2/

and

Information on getting an exemptionhttps://hef.org.nz/exemptions/

This link is motivational: http://hef.org.nz/2012/home-schooling-what-is-it-all-about/

Exemption Form online: https://hef.org.nz/2012/home-schooling-exemption-form-now-online/

Coming Events: https://hef.org.nz/2013/some-coming-events-for-home-education-during-2013-2/

Beneficiaries: http://hef.org.nz/2013/where-to-for-beneficiary-families-now-that-the-social-security-benefit-categories-and-work-focus-amendment-bill-has-passed-its-third-reading/

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Home Education Foundation’s Problem Scoping Survey

Craig with children and timeline3 October 2014

Dear Jim, Sonya and Lucy

Thank you for this opportunity to comment on the forms and processes that the MoE use with home educators in New Zealand.

I enjoyed our meeting with you on July 28 and our meeting with the Red Tape Cluster Buster team on July 15. Since then I have sent you a couple of emails. I am very thankful that you have listened to us and made appropriate decisions and actions based on our concerns. This has given me confidence to answer this Scoping Survey and to encourage others to do so as well. We have been dealing with the MoE since 1986 and this is the first time that we feel that the National Office of the MoE is listening to us and to the concerns that we have. Actually for the first few years we got our exemptions from the Principal of the local school – this went well for some families and terribly for other families.

I feel that we have a lot of things to bring to your attention. I guess this is because we have felt that the MoE has been unapproachable in the past (despite having lots of meetings with them over the years). Also, the fact that you are asking us to mention anything that is working well, anything that is not working well and anything we would like to see improved in the future, has made us bold in our suggestions.

The most important thing is that we don’t need an ‘exemption application’ at all – just a notification that we intend to home educate our children. If our child goes to school, we don’t have to ‘apply’. I think a notification, perhaps with the twice yearly statutory declaration, is all that is needed. Once we sign that we have fulfilled our legal obligation to teach our child/ren as regularly and well as in a registered school and this is a binding legal document.

There is nothing else in terms of our parenting decisions that we need to involve government institutions with, aside from when we need assistance (with health or in extreme cases where children need protection). Having to seek permission to home educate, and then having this checked out and monitored by a government agency (simply because there is a Ministry of Education) makes home-educating feel ‘wrong’. I do not need to rationalise or be fearful of other choices I make with my children (such as the way they dress, the religion we follow, the food we eat, or where we live etc). I do not understand why educating my children at home should be something that causes me to feel suspicious of the government! If anything is not working, it is that element.

Rights of Parents

UN conventions state that parents have the right to choose the kind of education their children will receive. This right is supported by multiple human rights instruments under international law. New Zealand is a signatory to these three conventions and they show that this human right is universally recognised in all places.

Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948) Article 26 (3) – ‘Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.’
International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (1976) Article 10 (1) and 13 (3)3 – ‘The States Parties to the present Covenant undertake to have respect for the liberty of parents and, when applicable, legal guardians to choose for their children schools, other than those established by the public authorities, which conform to such minimum educational standards as may be laid down or approved by the State and to ensure the religious and moral education of their children in conformity with their own convictions.’
International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (1976) Article 18 (4)4 – ‘The States Parties to the present Covenant undertake to have respect for the liberty of parents and, when applicable, legal guardians to ensure the religious and moral education of their children in conformity with their own convictions.’

See more on parental rights here: https://hef.org.nz/2012/berlin-declaration/

Rights of Children

Section 3 of the Education Act gives New Zealand children the right to a free education in state-funded institutions. But Sections 20 and 25 prove that neither the children nor their parents are legally free to choose whether they’ll make use of this right. Instead they are legally compelled by the state to do two things: 1) enrol the children with a state-registered schooling institution and 2) attend that institution whenever it is open.

So while the Act declares children to have a right to an education, the Act only guarantees that they will be compelled to be enrolled at and attend a state-approved institution. The children are not guaranteed, compelled or even required by law to actually learn anything at all, to actually become educated or to receive an education. They are only required to do their time in a school.

We are thankful that Section 21 of the Education Act exists to give parents and children an alternative.

Section 161 gives us the freedom:

(a) within the law, to question and test received wisdom, to put forward new ideas and to state controversial or unpopular opinions;
(b) to engage in research;
(c) to regulate the subject matter of courses taught;
(d) to teach and assess students in the manner they consider best promotes learning;
(e) and to appoint  own staff.

We are also to do this while maintaining high ethical standards and accountability.

Now as to what is working, what is not working, and suggestions for the future

1. Justified Absence 

During our Red Tape Cluster Buster meeting I mentioned the fact that many families find it extremely difficult to keep their children in school while applying for an exemption. Megan told us about ‘Justified’ and ‘Unjustified’ absences. I had not heard these terms before so looked them up to find that home educators could keep within the law if they had a Justified Absence during the process of getting an exemption. At the moment we suggest to those who don’t want their children in school while they apply for an exemption to get a doctor’s certificate or to go through the process of changing schools. Please see this post that I wrote up on Truancy after meeting with the Red Tape Cluster Buster Team:  https://hef.org.nz/getting-started-2/truancy-and-the-home-schoolerhome-educator/

Suggestion for the future:

Please include “applying for an exemption” to this list:

Student absent due to short-term illness/medical reasons

Justified explanation within the school policy

Exam leave

Unsupervised study – student is off-site

During home education exemption process

Justified overseas – check next column for justification examples

Student is stood down or suspended

2. Exemption form

‘Principal notified of your intention to homeschool (in the case of a child currently enrolled in a school). The Principal of your child’s current school (or most recently attended school) will be asked to comment on the suitability or otherwise of home education as an option for your child.’

Different  MoE offices deal with this differently. Any contact with a previous school should not delay or interfere with the process of approving an exemption. There are other ways that a check can be made to see if the child is on the school’s roll. Presently the home educating community sees this as potentially causing additional problems for the child, for the parents, and for the school, when the MoE contacts them while an exemption application is still in approval phase. It is the parents’ decision whether to home educate or not, not the school’s. When a Principal is asked to comment ‘on the suitability or otherwise of home education as an option’ they do not necessarily have insight into the home educating philosophy or the different approaches parents plan to use. Therefore it is a subjective comment currently being asked for by Principals with little contextualisation. Most schools are good about this but there are some where the school has a predetermined objection to the philosophy of home educating and this impacts their response to this question.

There used to be a MoE staff member in Hamilton who would decline exemptions to families whose children were continually absent from school. He said that if the parents couldn’t make their children go to school regularly then they would not be able to home school them regularly. He totally missed the point. The children did not want to be at school, but did want to be home educated. It was because of this that the parents wanted to get an exemption and to home educate their children.

Some MoE offices will not process exemption applications during holidays because they cannot contact the Principal. This is totally unreasonable as a lot of parents want to pull their children from school at the end of a term and not send them back to school at the beginning of a new term. And in any case the MoE should not be contacting the Principals about the suitability of parents to home educate their own children.

Suggestion for the future:

Leave schools completely out of the equation when processing exemption applications. The time to contact a school would be when the exemption application has been processed. The home educator should also inform the school why their child/ren will not be returning to school.

3. “Regular” and “well” 

We don’t want to see these words defined any more than they already are in the exemption form package. Those words are in the law. Everything else is policy, including the interpretation of those words. Yes, it is a little frustrating that these words are interpreted differently by different home educators and different MoE staff. But as soon as these words are defined then home educators will loose some of their freedoms. A definition of these words will be one person’s or one committee’s interpretation and it could have ramifications for home educators in the future.

as well as’ does not mean the ‘the same as’

as regular as’ is more regular than school as it is all the time.

We want the MoE to understand that home education is a lifestyle that is 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and 365 days of the year – very regular, no days off. This has been obvious to those families who have tried to have a ‘no learning day’.

 

‘We are supposed to teach as regularly and well as in a registered school.

If that’s all I do,

I’ll consider myself a failure.’

– Craig Mortimer

Suggestion for the future:

Please do not define ‘regular’ and ‘well’ .

4. Family Exemption Application

We would really love to see this available online. We could use our MoE number to access it. We would have our overall philosophy up there. Then we could just fill in the particulars for each child. So the exemption would be filled in online. Then it would be wonderful to be able to track the progress of the exemption form online. This should cut down on a lot of work for everyone and make the exemption process more consistent around the country. Perhaps there could be just one office processing exemptions – then we could have well trained, home education friendly staff in the MoE office handling the exemptions.

Suggestion for the future:

Family Exemption Application – to be filled in online

– Ability to add children’s specific details as they turn 6 (or when pulling children out of school)

Ability to track progress of exemption application online

A smaller number of staff, home education friendly and knowledgeable, to process exemption applications.

5. Flexibility of the Exemption Application when it comes to different philosophies.

At the moment the exemption form application seems to be set up for one philosophy which lines up with how children are taught in school. Home education is quite different. MoE and ERO staff need to understand all the different philosophies and applications of those philosophies.

Suggestion for the future:

Perhaps you could have a workshop for those in the MoE and ERO who have anything to do with home educators and invite a few home educators to speak on some of the different approaches to home education.

6. Special needs

I hear from parents of special needs children way to often who are having trouble getting their exemptions. Often the school Principal has commented on the unsuitability of the parents to home educate, when in actual fact he is looking after and protecting the extra funding he gets. What makes these parents so upset is the fact that, yes, the school does get extra funding but the school does not use it on their child. The child is placed at the back of the classroom with colouring in papers and pencils all day and the funds are used elsewhere. These parents know that they can do a much better job than the schools but they are denied this until we kick up a fuss, on behalf of the ones we hear about. How many parents have given up on the exemption process and their child is still in the back of the classroom colouring in?

Parents should not need to have their special needs child assessed to get an exemption. It can be voluntary especially if they want to use any special education services offered for special needs children, but not compulsory.

Suggestion for the future:

Please do not contact principals about special needs children. Please just process the exemption application based on whether the child will be taught at least as regularly and well as in a special class or clinic or by a special service.

It would also be helpful if there was more information on the exemption form about what is available for home educated children with special needs. I know that was one of the things that was of interest to the Red Tape Cluster Buster team.

7. ECE

Providing information about whether our children had been in an ECE during the last 6 months (when our children are turning 6 or being pulled out of school) is not a requirement of the current legislation and does not demonstrate to the MoE that we have the ability to ‘teach our child as regularly and well as in a registered school’. Just because they are asking this of all children entering school (as per Jim’s letter to me) does not mean that they need to ask this of children being home educated.

Suggestion for the future:

Drop all info about ECE from the exemption form.

8. The need to see home education friendly staff in the MoE, especially in the local offices where the exemption applications are processed.

We do not want to see anyone in the local MoE office who ‘does not like home schooling and does not think anyone should be able to do it’.

The same goes for the ERO. The ERO come into our home and make a judgment on our family and lifestyle. It is a very nervous time for home educators. We need reviewers who thoroughly understand all the different styles of home education – perhaps just a few reviewers throughout New Zealand.

We also need local MoE offices to listen to us so that we can write in our exemptions the way we want to home educate our children and not have to write what we think the MoE wants to hear.

Suggestion for the future:

Check out all staff dealing with home educators. Make sure that they understand the different philosophies and approaches to education.

Institute a complaints or appeal process where parents can bring their complaints if they feel they are being unfairly treated by a local MoE or ERO office.

9. The success of home educators

I don’t know of any home educators on the dole or who have been on the dole. This must say a lot about the home education environment in New Zealand and the good work that parents are doing with their children whether they are using a very academic programme or the natural learning/unschooling approach. Here is a New Zealand survey answered by those who have finished being home educated: Beyond homeschooling in New Zealand

What the MoE is doing well

Over the years we have had a good environment for home educating in New Zealand, even though we have a lot of concerns that are being mentioned in these Scoping Surveys. Once we get our exemptions we are able to do what we like and we are seeing some amazing things which home educated graduates are doing. We have had some very friendly home educating staff in the MoE and ERO dealing with home educators over the years which has been very encouraging.

10. School focused exemption form.

Most home educators do not follow a timetable – they are more goal orientated and/or focused on natural learning and the teachable moment.

Suggestion for the future:

The exemption form is good in this respect. It is the local MoE offices, particularly the Lower Hutt local MoE office, that is insisting on each exemption having a timetable and saying that there is not enough academics for a 6 year old. It is way over the top. Please train the local offices in the basic alternatives: timetable or integrated curriculum description or description of typical routines used.

11. Records of progress and achievement

‘In our heads’ has been an acceptable way to keep a “record of progress and achievement” for over 28 years. Now we are asked to keep records on the exemption form – weekly, termly, annually. ERO reviews in the past were about talking to the parents, not the children, to see how the parents were teaching the children. It was all about the ERO finding out what was in the parents’ heads – not about written reports. There is plenty of time to come up with a report for the ‘ERO, further education or training’ at the time of these events. Please see this post that I wrote after the Getting to know you meeting with you: https://hef.org.nz/2014/record-of-progress-and-achievement/

Suggestion for the future:

Please remove this from the exemption application pack: ‘Remember, you will need to have a record of progress and achievement over time i.e. weekly, termly, annually. This may also be needed when your child goes on to further education or training.’

12. Topic plans

These are of benefit for the MoE, not the parent. Education at home happens in a completely different way than it does at school. Some home educators may use a topic plan, but most don’t. So it is a complete waste of time for the purpose of assessing whether someone can teach ‘as well as’ a registered school. Most home educators fill this in the way they think the MoE would like to hear, not the way it happens in their homes.

Suggestion for the future:

Please help us to be honest in our exemption applications by being able to explain exactly how we plan to teach our child/ren as regularly and well as in a registered school, and not just fill in what we think the MoE wants to hear. Megan, from the Red Tape Cluster Buster team, was very understanding of the current process and wanted us to be aware that the Ministry understands that there is difference in current practice. What we write in the Broad Curriculum Areas and Curriculum Areas sections of the exemption form (hopefully these two questions will be combined to focus on the Home Educator Overarching Philosophy) sets the stage for how the MoE will look at the whole exemption application. In other word’s what we write in these two areas will be reflected in what we write for the Topic Plan and Regularity. So if we have a bookwork approach to our home educating then the MoE will expect to see a Topic Plan and a Timetable. If we write up our understanding of natural learning/unschooling and show how we plan to go about applying it in our homes, then the Topic Plan and the Regularity questions should be answered quite differently to the way the bookwork approach will be written up – with a focus on how natural learning will work in our children’s lives. Again, please help the MoE staff in the local offices to understand this as well.

13. The statutory declaration

Does this really need to be signed by a JP or other authorised person? Heaps of other forms of more importance do not need to be witnessed like this.

Suggestion for the future:

Put the form online and let us sign it online under our MoE number.

14. Should it be taking 4-6 weeks for exemptions to be processed?

In the past we often heard back in 4-6 days.

Suggestion for the future:

Encourage the local MoE offices to process our exemption applications much more quickly than is happening in some regions.

15. Complaints

It’s important for the MoE and ERO to realise that sometimes (way too often) people complain about a family and their home education programme because they are just plain against home schooling. They don’t understand it and are critical without finding out about it. Other times an ex-spouse or ex-partner (who might once have been supportive of home education) will make trouble by asking for a review to try to hurt the one still home educating.

Suggestion for the future:

Find out the facts before sending the ERO in. Or get the ERO to understand that some complaints may be malicious. Please include contact details of home education groups on any letters/emails you send to home educators due to have a review suggesting that they contact other experienced home educators before they have their review.

16. Failed ERO reviews

There needs to be clarity over the words that the MoE sends to the family after a failed ERO review – ‘if the parents indicate they accept the finding’ etc. Some home educators have difficulty in signing the form if they cannot accept the findings.

Suggestion for the future:

Please change this wording so that families can accept the findings of the ERO review without feeling like they are agreeing that this is what their home education is like.

17. Attitude of MoE staff

Home Education has not grown in New Zealand as it has in some other countries like the USA and Australia. I am beginning to think that part of this reason is the attitude of some staff in the local MoE offices – in particular, Lower Hutt and Hamilton. Families have been questioned by the MoE and some staff have even tried to put families off home educating, as have some Principals. Some families have been made to feel bad about wanting to pull their children out of school either by the local MoE office or by the Principal.

Suggestion for the future:

We are thankful to know that there is a new Manager in the Lower Hutt local MoE office. We can’t do a lot about the Principals but having home education friendly staff in the MoE will help this situation.

18. Beneficiaries 

Beneficiaries are being told by some WINZ offices that they cannot home school and be on the benefit. I am not sure if there is anything you can do about this. We may need to go to the WINZ head office ourselves about this.

From the Home Education Foundation’s submission on the Beneficiary Bill October 2012: https://hef.org.nz/beneficiaries/submissions/home-education-foundations-submission/ 

6. The Bill will not necessarily save the government money

Single mothers on a benefit

We have heard from a number of mothers that the birth fathers of their children are paying maintenance to Work and Income which is paying for a good portion of their benefit. If this is so and the mother is mainly relying on the children’s birth father rather than the government, then chasing the mother into employment and forcing the children into preschool will not save much money but will continue to put the family through unnecessary hardship.

Home educators save the government in school costs

According to Ministry of Education statistics, New Zealand spends US$5,582 (approx NZ$6,790.51) per primary school student per year and US$6,994 (approx NZ$8,501.67) per secondary school student per year. This is how much money home educating sole parents save the government annually. A sole parent home educating three children could be saving the government around NZ$22,000 per year, which is more than her benefit. If she has special needs children, she could be saving the government even more: special schools in New Zealand spend up to NZ$160,000 per year on each student.

Meanwhile the cost of a year’s ECE for one child attending 15 hours’ preschool per week is approximately NZ$5112.90 per year, and 75% of ECE funding comes from the government.

We believe that work test requirements should be mindful of, and friendly toward, the monetary and social benefits of home education at all levels, and should seriously consider the possibility of pursuing delinquent fathers for maintenance rather than harrying single mothers into the workplace.

Suggestion for the future:

Perhaps contact the WINZ  Head Office and suggest that they make having an exemption to home educate a reason not to have to go out to work for 15 hours a week when the youngest child is 5, or 30 hours a week when the youngest child is 14. Some WINZ offices have this approach, while others are being unreasonable and putting a lot of stress on mothers (and occasionally fathers) wanting to do the best for their children.

Further observations: Two recent New Zealand studies that might be of interest are:

PhD study on Home Education in New Zealand

and part of the

NCHENZ Statistical Survey for 2013 in pdf format

We are really excited about the processes that the MoE is using at the moment to get to know how home educators really think and operate. We trust that in the future we will be able to speak the same language with the National and the local MoE offices.

We look forward to seeing a copy of all the feedback and the summary of this collated feedback by the end of November 2014.  We look forward to being a part of, and being able to comment on, the feedback on this document to ensure you have accurately captured what is working well and what people would like to see changed.  We would love to be a part of the next steps and to comment on them as well.

Thank you, Jim, Sonya and Lucy for instigating all of this.

Regards

Barbara Smith

National Director

www.hef.org.nz

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MoE Problem Scoping Survey: please make it known and fill it out

Don’t forget to get your Problem Scoping Surveys into the MoE today (at a stretch early Monday morning – the MoE wont be working over the weekend, we have until midnight to get the Problem Scoping Surveys in, so early Monday morning will get the Surveys to the MoE before they start processing them).

Addresses for sending the Scoping Survey back:

email: Home.Schooling@minedu.govt.nz

snail mail: Lucy Ambrose, 45-47 Pipitea St, Wellington

phone: 04 463 8946 | Ext 48946

or look for the addresses in Jim Greening’ letter.

Links:
Home Education Foundation letter which covers exemption form, beneficiaries, International home educators and Keystone.

– MoE/ERO issues

– Changes in the MoE

– MoE discussions introduction to the Red Tape Cluster Buster meetings

– Preparation for the MoE discussions with Red Tape Cluster Buster meetings andrelevant for the Problem Scoping Survey
– Discussions home educators had online at Clutter buster group or (for ease of reading as not everyone can get onto the Google docs) here…https://hef.org.nz/coming-events-archives-2012/red-tape-cluster-buster/ (Also a lot of very good information to aid you in filling out the Problem Scoping Survey)

– Record of Progress and Achievement (an example of the new National MoE office staff understanding home educators)

– Truancy and the Home Schooler/Home Educator (another success with the National Office in that Megan showed us alternatives)

– Scoping Meeting 15 July 2014 – Getting to know you

– 2nd Meeting 28 July 2014 – Red Tape Cluster Buster Meeting

– MoE scoping Home Educators – email

– Feedback Form (Problem Scoping Survey) on MoE website

– Email to the MoE about the Scoping Survey from a Home Educator

– Problem Scoping Survey: ideas and deadline

– MoE’s reply to Yumiko’s email about the Scoping Survey

– MoE Problem Scoping Survey: please make it known and fill it out

– The last of Craig Smith’s writings before he died 3 years ago

– MoE Problem Scoping Survey

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Please share/forward this link with other home educators.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From the Smiths:

https://hef.org.nz/2011/craig-smith-26-january-1951-to-30-september-2011/

Updated 1 October 2014:  Three years on (Craig Smith’s Health) page 7 click here

*****

Needing help for your home schooling journey:

https://hef.org.nz/2011/needing-help-for-your-home-schooling-journey-2/

And

Here are a couple of links to get you started home schooling:

Information on getting startedhttps://hef.org.nz/getting-started-2/

and

Information on getting an exemptionhttps://hef.org.nz/exemptions/

This link is motivational: http://hef.org.nz/2012/home-schooling-what-is-it-all-about/

Exemption Form online: https://hef.org.nz/2012/home-schooling-exemption-form-now-online/

Coming Events: https://hef.org.nz/2013/some-coming-events-for-home-education-during-2013-2/

Beneficiaries: http://hef.org.nz/2013/where-to-for-beneficiary-families-now-that-the-social-security-benefit-categories-and-work-focus-amendment-bill-has-passed-its-third-reading/

 

 

 

 

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MoE Problem Scoping Survey: please make it known and fill it out

 

Deadline:

The deadline was yesterday. We had until midnight to get the Scoping Surveys  in, the MoE won’t be working over the weekend, so early Monday morning will get the Surveys to the MoE before they start processing them.

Craig with children and timeline

 

The MoE is doing a Problem Scoping Survey of all home educators. Most of you have heard about it. I am still talking to people who have not heard about it or who are not considering filling the survey out.

This is our opportunity to let the MoE know

what we are happy about in our dealings with them,

what we are not happy with in our dealings with them

and what we would like to see in the future

and they are listening.

due in 3 October 2014 (revised date)

Update: But they don’t have a time so that means midnight. They wont be working over the weekend so we actually have until early morning on the 6th to get the Scoping Survey or an email back.

The MoE has sent this Problem Solving Survey out to 2530 home educator’s email addresses (50 bounced). They are aware that they have not been able to contact all home educating parents.  They have placed the survey on their website in an attempt to provide the information to as many people as possible: http://www.minedu.govt.nz/Parents/AllAges/EducationInNZ/Homeschooling.aspx.

This post is an attempt to get the information out to as many home educators as possible and to encourage all home educators to answer the survey by October 3. Lots of people have already answered the survey. A lot more do NOT want to answer the survey because of our previous interactions with the MoE – some are fearful of answering the survey. I would not be answering the survey and I would be encouraging you all not to answer it under the old guard of the MoE. We have new people in the National Office of the MoE since 1 July  2014 who are interested in having a better relationship with home educators. I have had good interaction with them via meetings, phone and email. They have put right some things that I have written to them about. This survey is an attempt from them to understand home educators and put in place things to make the forms and processes that they use with us better.  A major item is the exemption form. It will be great when we will no longer have to tell the MoE what we think they want us to tell them, but let them know exactly how we will be home educating our children whether we have a curriculum work book approach, or whether we have a radical unschoolers/natural learners approach or something inbetween. The National Office of the MoE want to understand us so that we are all speaking the same language. Jim Greening said that we are his largest school. He meant that as a compliment and I want to take it as a compliment but at the same time have us all use this survey to let them know that we are nothing like a school in our approach to educating our children. I want us to use this survey to help them to understand us so that we are talking the same language. They need to hear from as many home educators as possible as we are all independent thinkers and all have a different approach to home education.

So please share this post with as many people as possible. Please share it on Facebook with the groups that have not seen this yet. Please forward it on the Yahoo groups that have not seen this yet. Please share/forward it with your support group members. Please share/forward it with individual home educators. Please share and forward.

 Now to the Problem Solving Survey

with supporting information on why we should all fill it out

and ideas to stimulate your thinking for filling it out.

Problem Solving Survey

Feedback Letter Jim Greening’s covering letter
Feedback Form The Problem Solving Survey

“The feedback sheet is intended as a guide; people can submit their feedback in any form they like either by emailing us or writing to us. We are interested to hear what is working well, and what home educators would like to see improved or changed with regards to home education.”

Click on this link to go to the MoE website:  http://www.minedu.govt.nz/Parents/AllAges/EducationInNZ/Homeschooling.aspx

Many people have been concerned that we did not have enough information to be filling out this survey. So a home educator, Dr. Yumiko Olliver-Gray, wrote to the MoE to get more information about the survey. She asked questions under these headings:

1. Background information
2. Confidentiality and ethics
3. Interpreting the information

This is Yumiko’s email: Email to the MoE about the Scoping Survey from a Home Educator

This is the MoE’s reply: MoE’s reply to Yumiko’s email about the Scoping Survey

Here is the background for those who have not read these links yet.

In April I wrote two letters  to the MoE and Jim Greening answered them both (dated 30 June). Please read my two letters and Jim’s reply. https://hef.org.nz/2014/moeero-issues/.  The good news from these letters is that we have been able to address these issues with the MoE in two meetings of 15 and 28 July. Other home educating groups have been meeting with the MoE and discussed similar issues with them. Some of the issues have been resolved and others are still ongoing. I will explain shortly.

July 1 the MoE had some major changes. Those involved with home education in the MoE: Hon Hekia Parata (Minister of Education-could change soon); Peter Hughes (Secretary of Education); Jim Greening (Group Manager, Schools and Student Support); Sonya Logan (Manager, Student Engagement) and Lucy Ambrose (Senior Advisor, Learner Engagement). Red Tape Cluster Buster team Megan Reid (Senior Project Manager) and Mireille Consalvey (Project Coordinator) for the Change Team, which is a part of Sector Enablement and Support. Then the local MoE offices.

July 15 I had a Getting to know you meeting with the Jim Greening, Sonya Logan and Lucy Ambrose: https://hef.org.nz/2014/moe-meetings-1st-meeting-15-july-2014-getting-to-know-you/. This meeting was for the new staff in the MoE National Office to find out what home education was all about from home educators. There was a second aim to find out who they would like to have on a team for ongoing discussions. At this meeting we talked at length about a family who had failed their ERO review and were declined a second ERO review. We talked about the issues and policies surrounding all of this which resulted in the failed ERO review and why there was no second ERO review. Jim, Sonya and Lucy agreed that there needs to be changes. The good news from all of this is that this family now have new exemptions (third letter in link) signed by Jim himself. Another issue that was dealt with was the need to keep records and it is not about keeping records at all, but preparing when we need to for either the “ERO, further education or training”. See more here: https://hef.org.nz/2014/record-of-progress-and-achievement/

July 28 Red Tape Cluster Buster Meetinghttps://hef.org.nz/2014/moe-meetings-2nd-meeting-28-july-2014-red-tape-cluster-buster-meeting/. Please read this link to see that these new people dealing with home educators have our best interests at heart. I talked with Megan about those with the Natural Learning/unschooling philosophy having trouble getting their applications being approved when they were written thoroughly from that approach. Read what she said to us under “Use of the Exemption Application” in the link above.  We talked a lot about truancy while applying for an exemption form and Megan outlined her understanding of “Justified” and “Unjustified” Absence. I had never heard of those terms before – read about this in the meeting notes and here: Truancy and the Home Schooler/Home Educator.

More recently I have written to the MoE National Office about the Lower Hutt MoE local office concerning the difficulties home educators have in getting exemptions. All of these exemption applications have now been approved which we are thankful for. We trust that it will be easier to get exemptions from the Lower Hutt local MoE office in the future. There is a new manager for home education, Andrea, in the Lower Hutt local office of the MoE.

Here are some ideas to write about

plus you probably have others. This list is just to stimulate your thinking about the things that you can write about in the scoping survey. Many people have said that they got their exemptions with no problems – that is fantastic. The MoE wants to hear about what is working well, what is not working and how they can improve. So there is something for everyone to write about. You can fill out the survey, send in an email or snail mail letter. You can sign it or send it in anonymously.

“The most important is that we don’t need an ‘application’ at all.  Just a notification that we intend to homeschool.  If our child goes to school, we don’t have to ‘apply’.  I think a notification, perhaps with the twice yearly statutory declaration, is all that is needed.  We sign that we have fulfilled our legal obligation to educate our child/ren and this is a binding legal document.  (If the MoE wont consider “no application” then just one application per family rather than per child.  Once approved, do we really need to do an application for each child?)”

“There is nothing else in terms of our parenting decisions that we need to involve government institutions with, aside from when we need assistance (health or in extreme cases where children need protection). Seeking permission to home school, having this checked out and monitored by a government agency (simply because there is a Ministry of Education) makes home-educating feel ‘wrong’. I do not need to rationalise or be fearful of other choices I make with my children (such as the way they dress, the religion we follow, the food we eat, where we live …)… I do not understand why educating my children at home should be something that causes me to feel suspicious of the government over! If anything is not working, it is that element.”

1. Justified Absence – it would be wonderful if a lot of home educators include this in their Scoping Surveys asking for “Justified Absence” during the exemption application process to be a part of the MoE policy. Please see this post that I wrote up on Truancy after meeting with the Red Tape Cluster Buster Team.   https://hef.org.nz/getting-started-2/truancy-and-the-home-schoolerhome-educator/

2. This statement could be mentioned in several scoping surveys: “Principal notified of your intention to homeschool (in the case of a child currently enrolled in a school). The Principal of your child’s current school (or most recently attended school) will be asked to comment on the suitability or otherwise of home education as an option for your child.” For those of you who this has been an issue (or those who could see issues about this in the future) it would be wonderful if you could outline the issues in the scoping survey. Jim knows that this statement needs to be changed and they are listening to us on this. So it is important that we give them some case studies of how this has been detrimental to many families during the application process.

Some MoE offices will not process exemption applications during holidays because they cannot contact the Principal. This is totally unreasonable as a lot of parents want to pull their children from school at the end of a term and not send them back to school at the beginning of a new term.  Anyway MoE should not be contacting the Principals about the suitability of parents to home educate their own children. And we are trusting after this process with the Red Tape Cluster Buster team that “Justified Absence” will be applied for the exemption application process.

3. “regular” and “well” Jim wants to define these two words we don’t want to see these words defined any more than they already are in the exemption form package. Those words are in the law everything else is policy, including the interpretation of those words.

4. Beneficiaries being told by some WINZ offices that they cannot home school and be on the benefit.
5. Exemption form online – to be filled out online, along with that, the ability to track online the progress of the exemption form.
6. Use of the Exemption Application when it comes to different philosophies. At the moment the exemption form application seems to be set up for one philosophy which lines up with how children are taught in school. Home education is quite different and the National Office seems to be understanding this. We need to write about this more in the Problem Scoping Survey so that it is clearer in the application form.
7. Special needs: The National Office, especially the Red Tape Cluster Buster team, wants to hear from those with Special needs children. What are all the things that you have found helpful for your special needs children? What struggles have you had to find out what is available for your special needs home educated children? I have heard of some families who have had struggles for many years in these areas and have finally found the help they needed. Please share this information in the Problem Solving Survey so that others don’t have to go through your struggles. Megan is keen to get this information onto the Exemption Application forms.
Parents should not have to have their special needs child assessed to get an exemption. It can be voluntary especially if they want to use any special education services offered for special needs children, but not compulsory.
8. ECE: writing information about whether our children had been in an ECE during the last 6 months (when our children are turning 6 or being pulled out of school) is not a requirement of the current legislation and does not demonstrate to the MoE that we have the ability to “teach our child as regularly and as well as a registered school”. Just because they are asking this of all children entering school (Jim’s letter to me) does not mean that they need to ask this of children being home educated.
9. The need to see home education friendly staff in the MoE especially in the local offices where the exemption applications are approved. We do not want to see anyone in the local MoE offices who “do not like home schooling and do not think anyone should be able to do it”
Same with the ERO. The ERO come into our home and are making a judgment on our family and lifestyle. It is a very nervous time for home educators. We need reviewers who thoroughly understand all the different styles of home education – perhaps just a few reviewers throughout New Zealand.
10. Another idea is to ask for a “Family Exemption Application” to be online. We use our number to access it. We have our overall philosophy up there. Then we just add to that the particulars for each child.
11. The Success of home educators: I don’t know of any home educators on the dole or who have been on the dole. This must say a lot about the home education environment in New Zealand and the good work that parents are doing with their children whether they are using a very academic programme or they are using the Natural Learning/unschooling approach. Here is a New Zealand survey answered by those who have finished being home educated: Beyond homeschooling in New Zealand
12. The need for the local MoE offices to listen to us so that we can write up our exemptions the way we want to home educate our children and NOT write in the exemption form what we think the MoE wants to hear.
13. For the MoE to understand that home education is a lifestyle that is 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and 365 days of the year = very regular, no days off. This has been obvious from those families who have tried to have a “no learning day”.
14. Some home educators might like to mention the UN conventions that Parents have a right to choose the kind of education their children will receive. The right is supported by multiple human rights instruments under international law. New Zealand is a signatory to these three conventions and they show that this human right is universally recognised in all places.

– Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948) Article 26 (3) – “Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.”
– International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (1976) Article 10 (1) and 13 (3)3 “The States Parties to the present Covenant undertake to have respect for the liberty of parents and, when applicable, legal guardians to choose for their children schools, other than those established by the public authorities, which conform to such minimum educational standards as may be laid down or approved by the State and to ensure the religious and moral education of their children in conformity with their own convictions.”
– International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (1976) Article 18 (4)4 – “The States Parties to the present Covenant undertake to have respect for the liberty of parents and, when applicable, legal guardians to ensure the religious and moral education of their children in conformity with their own convictions.”

and: https://hef.org.nz/2012/berlin-declaration/

15. “as well as” does not mean the “the same as”
as regular as” is more regular than school as it is all the time.
16. Exemption form is “School” focused. Most home educators do not follow a timetable – they are more goal Orientated and/or focused on natural learning and/or the teachable moment.
17. “In our heads” has been an acceptable way to keep a “record of progress and achievement” for over 25 years. Now we are asked to keep records on the exemption form – weekly, termly, annually. ERO reviews in the past were about talking to the parents, not the children, to see how the parent is teaching the child . It was all about the ERO finding out what was in the parents heads – not about written reports. There is plenty of time to come up with a report for the “ERO, further education or training” at the time of these events. Please see this post that I wrote after the Getting to Know you meeting with Jim, Sonya and Lucy:  https://hef.org.nz/2014/record-of-progress-and-achievement/
18. Topic plan is of benefit for the MoE not the parent. Education happens at home in a completely different way than it does at school. Some home educators may use a topic plan, most don’t. So it is a complete waste of time to asses whether someone can “teach as well as”.
19. Does the statutory declaration need to be signed by a JP or other authorised person. Heaps of other forms of more importance do not need to be witnessed like this.
20. Should it be taking 4-6 weeks for exemptions to be approved? In the past we often heard back in 4-6 days.
21. For the MoE and ERO to realise that sometimes (which happens way too often) people complain about a family and their home education programme because they are just plain against home schooling. They don’t understand it and are critical without finding out about it. Other times a ex spouse or ex partner (who were supportive of home education) will make trouble by asking for a review to try to hurt the one still home educating.
22. There needs to be clarity over the words that the MoE sends to the family after a failed ERO review– “if the parents indicate they accept the finding etc…” some home educators have difficulty in signing the form if they cannot accept the findings.
23. Home Education has not grown in New Zealand as it has in some other countries like the USA and Australia. I am beginning to think that part of this reason is the attitude of some staff in the local MoE offices – in particular Lower Hutt and Hamilton. Families have been questioned by the MoE and some staff have even tried to put families off home educating, as have some Principals. Some families have been made to feel bad about wanting to pull their children out of school by either the local MoE office or Principal. Things are slowly changing – there is a new manager in the Lower Hutt office. If this has been you then please share your experiences in the survey – you can do this anonymously.
24. NCEA If you have had successes with NCEA then please share these in the Survey. If you have concerns then please share these in the survey. If you have ideas for the future then please share these in the survey.
Observations: Two recent New Zealand studies that might be of interest are:
and part of the

These are just ideas to stimulate your thinking – come up with your own ideas, reword these ones, copy them if they are how you think. Share your experience good or bad. Share how you think the MoE can improve. The MoE has given us a blank cheque on letting them know how we feel about the forms and processes that the MoE have and use with home educators.

The National Office of the MoE want to hear from you in any form you feel comfortable with.

Remember this is NEW staff. They want to know:

  1. What is working between the MoE and home educators
  2. What is not working between the MoE and home educators
  3. How things can be improved in the future
  4. They want to put right anything that they still can – I have seen this happening personally over the last couple of months where I have taken stuff to the new National MoE Office staff and they have personally seen to fixing the problems of the old guard.
  5. Keeping them to the law which is all about “schooling” not education or learning.

Success

Remember when the MoE talks about “success” in this case they are talking about the success and failure of the interactions between the MoE and home educators. NOT the successes and failures of our home education in our homes.

Although don’t be afraid to tell them of your successes just don’t tell them of your failures. We all feel that we could be doing better and have failed in some areas. After home educating for 28 years (with an exemption) and realising how fast the time goes by and how little can be achieved in a day and yet our children learn and those of my children who have completed their education at home are now thriving in their chosen fields. Even school teachers must see many or their failures in the class. We only have a fraction of the children yet we all have the same amount of time. Actually that statement is incorrect as we have 24 hours while teachers only have from 9:00am to 3:00pm. Again that is incorrect as schools like to encroach on family time and give home work as well. What I am saying is that we are not perfect. So please don’t mention what you feel is failure in your home education as it is something you can be dealing with in the future and does not need to be brought to the attention of the MoE.

On the other hand do mention your successes – how you home educate without a timetable, without using a topic plan, without set curriculum, without rigid guidelines, without goal planning if that is how you home educate. Talk about the successes your children have in learning to read and write (sometimes even on their own) and especially without qualified teachers.

Tell them what is working in your home, whether you use a timetable, set curriculum, topic plan for subjects, rigid guidelines and goal planning or whether your family are natural learners/radical unschoolers or somewhere in between.

It is not like an ERO review on the home education in our own homes. It is like an ERO review on the systems/processes that the MoE use with home educators. Simply what works, what doesn’t and how can it be improved.

The evidence shows overwhelmingly that these children (home schooled children) perform extremely well, above average, when they re-enter formal education. That appears to be across the board, whether they sat at home and had formal lessons…or whether they were up-a-tree hippies who had no formal learning pattern. On any measure you like, socially or academically, they will do better.” — Jeff Richardson, Monash University, Melbourne https://hef.org.nz/getting-started-2/expert-opinion/

RONALD MEIGHAN, University of Nottingham School of Education, 1996 wanted to write an essay against home education. After he had done his research he wrote: Home-Based Education Not “Does It Work?” but “Why Does It Work So Well?

The survey does not have to be on the form. You can email it or snail mail it into them with no return address by 3 October 2014.

Many people have been disappointed that they have not been able to be a part of the Red Tape Cluster Buster meetings. Well, this is your chance to have a say. People are talking with the National Office of the MoE – we don’t know what they are saying, so be sure to make your concerns, successes and ideas for the future known to the National Office of the MoE.

At the “getting to know you meeting” Jim, Sonya and Lucy assured us that they want home educators working with them on any changes to the forms and processes that the MoE use with and for home educators –  a group of home educators who can work with the MoE – a sector group to look at all aspects of home education.

The Survey is due back October 3 (Revised Date) Update: But they don’t have a time so that means midnight. They wont be working over the weekend so we actually have until early morning on the 6th to get the Scoping Survey or an email back.

Here is what the National Office of the MoE has said:

After 3 October 2014, we will be collating all the feedback from the home schooling sector and organisations involved in home schooling.  We will summarise what is working well and anything that people would like to see changed. A copy of all the feedback and the summary of this collated feedback will be provided to the home schooling sector by the end of November 2014.  We will seek feedback from the sector on this document to ensure we have accurately captured what is working well and what people would like to see changed.  The feedback we receive from the home schooling sector will inform us of the next steps.  Any proposed next steps will be provided to the home schooling sector for comment also by the end of November 2014.

I am sorry this is so long, but I want this post, with all the information in it, to go far and wide. Let us get as many home educators as possible to fill out this survey.

Half way down this page http://www.elshaddaiministries.us/topics/images/Talking%20Points%20and%20Letter%20to%20Editor.pdf is Keys to Good Letter Writing – Letters to Editors. You might like to take a look at this page to see if there are any tips that might help you in filling out the survey or writing an email to the MoE,

Addresses for sending the Scoping Survey back:

email: Home.Schooling@minedu.govt.nz

snail mail: Lucy Ambrose, 45-47 Pipitea St, Wellington

phone: 04 463 8946 | Ext 48946

or look for the addresses in Jim Greening’ letter.

Links:
Home Education Foundation letter which covers exemption form, beneficiaries, International home educators and Keystone.

– MoE/ERO issues

– Changes in the MoE

– MoE discussions introduction to the Red Tape Cluster Buster meetings

– Preparation for the MoE discussions with Red Tape Cluster Buster meetings and relevant for the Problem Scoping Survey
– Discussions home educators had online at Clutter buster group or (for ease of reading as not everyone can get onto the Google docs) here…https://hef.org.nz/coming-events-archives-2012/red-tape-cluster-buster/ (Also a lot of very good information to aid you in filling out the Problem Scoping Survey)

– Record of Progress and Achievement (an example of the new National MoE office staff understanding home educators)

– Truancy and the Home Schooler/Home Educator (another success with the National Office in that Megan showed us alternatives)

– Scoping Meeting 15 July 2014 – Getting to know you

– 2nd Meeting 28 July 2014 – Red Tape Cluster Buster Meeting

– MoE scoping Home Educators – email

Feedback Form (Problem Scoping Survey) on MoE website

Email to the MoE about the Scoping Survey from a Home Educator

Problem Scoping Survey: ideas and deadline

MoE’s reply to Yumiko’s email about the Scoping Survey

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Please share/forward this link with other home educators.

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From the Smiths:

https://hef.org.nz/2011/craig-smith-26-january-1951-to-30-september-2011/

Updated 22 September 2014:  Two years on (Craig Smith’s Health) page 7 click here

*****

Needing help for your home schooling journey:

https://hef.org.nz/2011/needing-help-for-your-home-schooling-journey-2/

And

Here are a couple of links to get you started home schooling:

Information on getting startedhttps://hef.org.nz/getting-started-2/

and

Information on getting an exemptionhttps://hef.org.nz/exemptions/

This link is motivational: http://hef.org.nz/2012/home-schooling-what-is-it-all-about/

Exemption Form online: https://hef.org.nz/2012/home-schooling-exemption-form-now-online/

Coming Events: https://hef.org.nz/2013/some-coming-events-for-home-education-during-2013-2/

Beneficiaries: http://hef.org.nz/2013/where-to-for-beneficiary-families-now-that-the-social-security-benefit-categories-and-work-focus-amendment-bill-has-passed-its-third-reading/

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MoE Scoping Survey: Support Groups and Deadline

 

Craig with children and timeline

MoE Problem Scoping Survey: please make it known and fill it out

Support Groups:

I know this is a bit late, but I have had a lot on my mind recently. Not all Support Groups met with the Red Tape Cluster Buster team. So this is your opportunity to put in a word as well via the Problem Scoping Survey. I am sorry it has taken me so long to come up with this idea. And I know it takes longer for a Support Group to put together something like this as you have to consult with your members. But I would like to encourage all Support Groups to put in a Problem Scoping Survey or email (whether you had a Red Tape Cluster Buster meeting or not).

I just started doing my one for the Home Education Foundation last night and that gave me the idea to encourage Support Groups to put in a Problem Scoping Survey as well. I am thankful that the deadline is on a Friday – more below.

Deadline:

The deadline is today. We have until midnight to get the Scoping surveys  in, so early Monday morning will get the Surveys to the MoE before they start processing them. I am thankful for this as I have not started working on mine yet. I will need Saturday to work on it.

MoE Problem Scoping Survey: please make it known and fill it out

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Don’t forget to get your Problem Scoping Surveys into the MoE today (at a stretch early Monday morning – the MoE wont be working over the weekend, we have until midnight to get the Problem Scoping Surveys in, so early Monday morning will get the Surveys to the MoE before they start processing them).

Addresses for sending the Scoping Survey back:

email: Home.Schooling@minedu.govt.nz

snail mail: Lucy Ambrose, 45-47 Pipitea St, Wellington

phone: 04 463 8946 | Ext 48946

or look for the addresses in Jim Greening’ letter.

Links:
Home Education Foundation letter which covers exemption form, beneficiaries, International home educators and Keystone.

– MoE/ERO issues

– Changes in the MoE

– MoE discussions introduction to the Red Tape Cluster Buster meetings

– Preparation for the MoE discussions with Red Tape Cluster Buster meetings andrelevant for the Problem Scoping Survey
– Discussions home educators had online at Clutter buster group or (for ease of reading as not everyone can get onto the Google docs) here…https://hef.org.nz/coming-events-archives-2012/red-tape-cluster-buster/ (Also a lot of very good information to aid you in filling out the Problem Scoping Survey)

– Record of Progress and Achievement (an example of the new National MoE office staff understanding home educators)

– Truancy and the Home Schooler/Home Educator (another success with the National Office in that Megan showed us alternatives)

– Scoping Meeting 15 July 2014 – Getting to know you

– 2nd Meeting 28 July 2014 – Red Tape Cluster Buster Meeting

– MoE scoping Home Educators – email

– Feedback Form (Problem Scoping Survey) on MoE website

– Email to the MoE about the Scoping Survey from a Home Educator

– Problem Scoping Survey: ideas and deadline

– MoE’s reply to Yumiko’s email about the Scoping Survey

– MoE Problem Scoping Survey: please make it known and fill it out

– The last of Craig Smith’s writings before he died 3 years ago

– MoE Problem Scoping Survey

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Please share/forward this link with other home educators.

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From the Smiths:

https://hef.org.nz/2011/craig-smith-26-january-1951-to-30-september-2011/

Updated 1 October 2014:  Three years on (Craig Smith’s Health) page 7 click here

*****

Needing help for your home schooling journey:

https://hef.org.nz/2011/needing-help-for-your-home-schooling-journey-2/

And

Here are a couple of links to get you started home schooling:

Information on getting startedhttps://hef.org.nz/getting-started-2/

and

Information on getting an exemptionhttps://hef.org.nz/exemptions/

This link is motivational: http://hef.org.nz/2012/home-schooling-what-is-it-all-about/

Exemption Form online: https://hef.org.nz/2012/home-schooling-exemption-form-now-online/

Coming Events: https://hef.org.nz/2013/some-coming-events-for-home-education-during-2013-2/

Beneficiaries: http://hef.org.nz/2013/where-to-for-beneficiary-families-now-that-the-social-security-benefit-categories-and-work-focus-amendment-bill-has-passed-its-third-reading/

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MoE offices: Whangarei, Auckland, Hamilton and Lower Hutt

Path on a beach

As most of you know we have had the Red Tape Cluster Buster Meetings, Getting to know you meetings and now we have the Problem Scoping Survey due in today (if struggling by early Monday morning). The new staff in the National office of the MoE want to hear and are hearing the problems we have had and are still having in the local offices of the MoE. We need to be patient – it is going to take time to see changes in the local MoE offices. The findings from the Red Tape Cluster Buster Meetings and the Problem Scoping Survey will be put together by the end of November and home educators will be able to comment on them. So it is going to be next year before we see any major changes in the local MoE offices. In the meantime there are some new staff handling home education exemption applications in some local MoE offices. If we are concerned about some of their practices then we need to bring this to their attention.

Some MoE Local Offices:

Whangarei

The new Whangarei office has been making it part of the exemption application process to visit the family before issuing an exemption. This is part of the “children at risk” initiative that is happening in Northland (and a bit more here), they were tentatively doing these “extra checks,” as a way of ensuring that children will be safe and educationally provided for. Meredith from NCHENZ has rung both Jim Greening and the Whangarei office and as a result of those phone calls home educators do not need to have the visit in order to get an exemption. It is voluntary to have the meetings. So if you are scheduled to have a meeting you can ring or email the Whangarei office and tell them that you are uncomfortable with the meeting and cancel it. If you decide to go ahead with a visit then please think seriously about having a support person (or even 2) there. We have found this to be valuable in many cases in the past with both the MoE and the ERO.

Auckland

Sad news: Steve McGregor has retired after many years of working in the MoE office and having a wonderful relationship with home educators. Fay Norman is now processing the exemption applications in the local Auckland MoE office. Let’s hope Steve stayed on long enough to train Fay really well.

Hamilton

Good news: We are not hearing of people having difficulties with the local Hamilton MoE office at the moment.

Lower Hutt

There is a new manager in the Lower Hutt office, Andrea. Gail is still processing exemptions applications and asking for way too much information.

Don’t forget to get your Problem Scoping Surveys into the MoE today (at a stretch early Monday morning – the MoE wont be working over the weekend, we have until midnight to get the Problem Scoping Survey in, so early Monday morning will get the Surveys to the MoE before they start processing them).

Addresses for sending the Scoping Survey back:

email: Home.Schooling@minedu.govt.nz

snail mail: Lucy Ambrose, 45-47 Pipitea St, Wellington

phone: 04 463 8946 | Ext 48946

or look for the addresses in Jim Greening’ letter.

Links:
Home Education Foundation letter which covers exemption form, beneficiaries, International home educators and Keystone.

– MoE/ERO issues

– Changes in the MoE

– MoE discussions introduction to the Red Tape Cluster Buster meetings

– Preparation for the MoE discussions with Red Tape Cluster Buster meetings and relevant for the Problem Scoping Survey
– Discussions home educators had online at Clutter buster group or (for ease of reading as not everyone can get onto the Google docs) here…https://hef.org.nz/coming-events-archives-2012/red-tape-cluster-buster/ (Also a lot of very good information to aid you in filling out the Problem Scoping Survey)

– Record of Progress and Achievement (an example of the new National MoE office staff understanding home educators)

– Truancy and the Home Schooler/Home Educator (another success with the National Office in that Megan showed us alternatives)

– Scoping Meeting 15 July 2014 – Getting to know you

– 2nd Meeting 28 July 2014 – Red Tape Cluster Buster Meeting

– MoE scoping Home Educators – email

Feedback Form (Problem Scoping Survey) on MoE website

Email to the MoE about the Scoping Survey from a Home Educator

Problem Scoping Survey: ideas and deadline

MoE’s reply to Yumiko’s email about the Scoping Survey

MoE Problem Scoping Survey: please make it known and fill it out

The last of Craig Smith’s writings before he died 3 years ago

MoE Problem Scoping Survey

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Please share/forward this link with other home educators.

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From the Smiths:

https://hef.org.nz/2011/craig-smith-26-january-1951-to-30-september-2011/

Updated 1 October 2014:  Three years on (Craig Smith’s Health) page 7 click here

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Needing help for your home schooling journey:

https://hef.org.nz/2011/needing-help-for-your-home-schooling-journey-2/

And

Here are a couple of links to get you started home schooling:

Information on getting startedhttps://hef.org.nz/getting-started-2/

and

Information on getting an exemptionhttps://hef.org.nz/exemptions/

This link is motivational: http://hef.org.nz/2012/home-schooling-what-is-it-all-about/

Exemption Form online: https://hef.org.nz/2012/home-schooling-exemption-form-now-online/

Coming Events: https://hef.org.nz/2013/some-coming-events-for-home-education-during-2013-2/

Beneficiaries: http://hef.org.nz/2013/where-to-for-beneficiary-families-now-that-the-social-security-benefit-categories-and-work-focus-amendment-bill-has-passed-its-third-reading/

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